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apprenticeship?
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kat
2003-07-05 16:44:49 UTC
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I hope someone can help me here, you guys seem to be pretty helpful
when people don't ask dumb ass questions. I took a class last year in
permanent make up, basic body piercing, and small tattoos. I really
would like to get a tattoo and piercing apprenticeship and re-learn
everything the right way. The class I had was really informative, and
I did learn a lot, but it was just so rushed, and nowhere near the
quality of an apprenticeship. My question is, if I go in to talk to
someone about getting and apprenticeship, are they going to look at me
like I'm an idiot for even taking the class? I mean, I know how it's
looked at as pretty bad to be tattooing people and not learning the
right way, so I'm a little nervous about asking someone to teach me
since I already did things kind of half assed. Just let me know your
thoughts on all that. Thanks!
JSin
2003-07-05 16:55:16 UTC
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Post by kat
I hope someone can help me here, you guys seem to be pretty helpful
when people don't ask dumb ass questions. I took a class last year in
permanent make up, basic body piercing, and small tattoos. I really
would like to get a tattoo and piercing apprenticeship and re-learn
everything the right way. The class I had was really informative, and
I did learn a lot, but it was just so rushed, and nowhere near the
quality of an apprenticeship. My question is, if I go in to talk to
someone about getting and apprenticeship, are they going to look at me
like I'm an idiot for even taking the class?
They probably will... But the good news is you know it was not the
brightest move and if you modestly tell them that you know this they
will likely not sweat it.

Generally by the time you get to the point where you can get an artist
to apprentice you there will be some relationship between the two of you
so the likelyhood f that past class being an issue is small...

The bigger problem is going to be breaking your bad habits and
relearning proper procedure. But this is an issue anytime you are
re-learning anything.
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JSin
Lost Generation Custom Tattoo
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kat
2003-07-05 22:12:23 UTC
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So there's no way that what I already know can help me?
JSin
2003-07-05 23:49:50 UTC
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Post by kat
So there's no way that what I already know can help me?
I didn't take the classes that you did and have no Idea what they covered.

In general if you think they were compete, accurate, and what have you
then you would not be asking about apprenticeship. The fact that you are
and you are embarassed and questioning what a shop is going to say I
would guess they were inadequet. It is kinda like learning to become an
electrician by taking a weekend seminar. Both piercing and Tattooing
frequently are 2 year apprenticeships. Same as for most trades.

Just out of curiousity how long was the class and how much time did they
spend on infection control??
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JSin
Lost Generation Custom Tattoo
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Curt
2003-07-06 04:08:12 UTC
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<snip>I took a class last year in permanent make up, basic
body piercing, and small tattoos. <snip> if I go in to talk to
Cool. Information is fun. Sometimes it's even useful.
someone about getting and apprenticeship, are they going
to look at me like I'm an idiot for even taking the class?<snip>
Well, I recommend finding out the old fashioned way. Walk into a shop,
tell your tale, wait for a response.

Btw, who offered the class? What were some of the activities? :)
I'm a little nervous about asking someone to teach me
since I already did things kind of half assed. <snip>
Go to a shop. Talk with an artist. Build rapport. Again, tell your tale.
If you have any social skills at all and don't present yourself in some
obnoxiously self-important manner, I imagine you'll be well received.

Best of luck.
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Curt
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http://www.curtjames.com/
alicia
2003-07-06 16:55:57 UTC
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Hi everyone! I was also looking into taking a permanent make up
class. I actually found a site online for a woman who teaches in
Georgia (kind of far from me in Delaware) but she also offers a
piercing class. I've e-mailed tons of people who have taken the class
and all of the responses were great, but having never been an
apprentice, I have no idea what would be missing from the courses.
Anyone who might know something about classes or has maybe taken these
classes, I'd love more info. The site is: www.eyerly.com Thanks!
alicia
2003-07-06 16:59:21 UTC
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Also, I'm not looking to do this as a carrer...I do have a full time
job, but I'm looking for something to do more as a creative outlet.
Just to make everything clear.
Nina Baltes
2003-07-06 17:16:07 UTC
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Post by alicia
Also, I'm not looking to do this as a carrer...I do have a full time
job, but I'm looking for something to do more as a creative outlet.
Find something different than people to inflict your creativity
upon.

Nina
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alicia
2003-07-06 22:38:34 UTC
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I might be looking in the wrong places, but I haven't been able to
find anything more substantial than a class like this (70 hours) for
permanent make up. Are you saying that none of these classes will
train me well enough to do permanent make up on people and that no
matter how good the class is I'll just be "inflicting" my creativity
on people? I don't think that's a very fair judgement unless you took
the class or know someone who has and is not doing well. Like I said
before, everyone I've asked about the class who actually took it is
doing well now, and personally, I think that says a lot for the class.
I'm not trying to do huge backpieces or intricate sleves, and like I
stated, I don't need a full time income from this. I would love to
hear from someone with some firsthand experience either in permanent
make up or classes like this. Thanks!
i'll teach you to turn away.
2003-07-07 06:38:15 UTC
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alicia <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
a> I'm not trying to do huge backpieces or intricate sleves, and like I

yeah, just faces. that's far less readily visible than a back.

lish "i have holes poked in me
***@got.net rendering me useless to collectors." -jerkcity
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Lynniepoo2
2003-07-13 17:36:55 UTC
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Post by alicia
Also, I'm not looking to do this as a carrer...I do have a full time
job, but I'm looking for something to do more as a creative outlet.
Just to make everything clear.
Wondering what's creative about eye liner and lip liner.....................
Lynn
Missouri
Suzy Smith
2003-07-13 19:16:20 UTC
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Post by Lynniepoo2
Post by alicia
Also, I'm not looking to do this as a carrer...I do have a full time
job, but I'm looking for something to do more as a creative outlet.
Just to make everything clear.
Wondering what's creative about eye liner and lip liner.....................
Have you seen the way some women wear lip liner? It's like they have no
clue where the hell their lips end.
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c***@corabug.net
2003-07-13 20:14:04 UTC
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Post by Lynniepoo2
Wondering what's creative about eye liner and lip liner.................
SS> Have you seen the way some women wear lip liner? It's like they have no
SS> clue where the hell their lips end.
cora gets a boner when women eyeline their entire eye.
no, it's true. i've seen proof.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH





cora
Susan
2003-07-13 20:51:56 UTC
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cora gets a boner when women eyeline their entire eye.
*snarf*
I did that for years - soon after I first saw Chrissy Hynde. I also had a
Chrissy Hynde haircut for a while, too. I drew the line at
militant-vegan-peta-animal-rights, though.

Susan
http://scamptattoo.com
yttrx
2017-10-08 11:15:52 UTC
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Eat a bowl of turds, curt.




-----yttrx
Post by Curt
<snip>I took a class last year in permanent make up, basic
body piercing, and small tattoos. <snip> if I go in to talk to
Cool. Information is fun. Sometimes it's even useful.
someone about getting and apprenticeship, are they going
to look at me like I'm an idiot for even taking the class?<snip>
Well, I recommend finding out the old fashioned way. Walk into a shop,
tell your tale, wait for a response.
Btw, who offered the class? What were some of the activities? :)
I'm a little nervous about asking someone to teach me
since I already did things kind of half assed. <snip>
Go to a shop. Talk with an artist. Build rapport. Again, tell your tale.
If you have any social skills at all and don't present yourself in some
obnoxiously self-important manner, I imagine you'll be well received.
Best of luck.
--
I don't know much about art, but your mother's a whore.
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